The Neurobiology and Psychology of Pedophilia

[Kasz]

The Neurobiology and Psychology of Pedophilia: Recent Advances and Challenges (journal.frontiersin.org)

A pedophilic disorder is recognized for its impairment to the individual and for the harm it may cause others. Pedophilia is often considered a side issue and research into the nature of pedophilia is delayed in comparison to research into other psychiatric disorders.

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Pedophilia is defined as an ongoing sexual attraction toward pre-pubertal children (Freund, 1963; 1967;Seto, 2009). In the new DSM-5, pedophilia is de-pathologized by differentiating between the sexual preference for prepubescent children (i.e. pedophilia) and the disorder in case of additional factors. These factors include experiencing significant distress and impairment by fantasies and urges, or the acting out on behavioral level, including child pornography consumption and/or committing hands-on child sexual abuse offenses.
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This underlines that pedophilia as a sexual preference must be seen independently from sexual offending against children – otherwise there would be only offending pedophiles.

[regina]

pedophilia as a sexual preference must be seen independently from sexual offending against children

I sign with both hands!
It is obvious!
In the same way heterosexuality must be seen independently from sexual offending against women.
Consensual sex is not a sexual offending.

[Kasz]

Consensual sex is not a sexual offending.

But again, child must be protected againts manipulation for the consent.

[regina]

I always said that pedophilia has nothing to do with psychiatry, sexology or psychology.
It is a matter of culture. It is a question of customs.
Sexologists, psychiatrists, neurobiologists , all kind of therapists and psychologists, should keep far away from pedophilia and pedophiles.

[regina]

child must be protected againts manipulation for the consent

Everyone, not only a child, must be protected againts manipulation for the consent.
Consider advertising.

[Kasz]

Adult person is usually able to pretect herself. Child usually not.

[regina]

Adult person is usually able to protect herself. Child usually not.

That's not entirely true.
Especially women are easily to be deceived.
It does not depend of age.
Children are more sneaky than we can imagine.
After all, you are working with children.
You know them, sometimes, better than their parents.
It's not easy to fool them.
They are not assertive so, if you are a son of a bitch, you can force them.
But if you are a psychopath you can manipulate every person.

[Kasz]

Adult person is usually able to protect herself. Child usually not.

It does not depend of age.

On average children are more able to be manipulated than adults.

[regina]

On average children are more able to be manipulated than adults.

I do not think so.
Look.
Czech people may be are not very religious, but they reportedly believe in magic , divination and so on.
Many adult people believe in God.
They are like children.

[Kasz]

Believing in God and forcing to manipulate with somebody are quite different things.

[regina]

I know that You believe in God.
But people who believe in God are manipulated by priests, who are sinners.
Like small children.
You can be an adult man or a woman and you can be manipulated like a small child.
So do not tell me, that only children are easy to manipulate.
Everybody is.

[Kasz]

So do not tell me, that only children are easy to manipulate.

And you don't tell me that children can protect themselves as adults.

[Plyšáček]

My friends, you show "Psychology of Paedophiles" very good - it is our today´s topic.
You have frequent conflicts.

I am sure, that it is very easy to manipulate child. Children are confident and innocent. They have not so much experiences such as elders. We must protect children, because aggressors (not only paedophiles) are slick and clever.

Child is not able to give conscious consent.
They do not know, what is sex.
And if they have good conception about sex, thay don´t know, what experience will they have.
And if they have good anticipating, what feelings will they have, they don´t know, what will they think about it tomorrow.
And abuser can know nothing.
It can be nice fairytale or scary horror for both.

[regina]

I think that we improperly raise children.
We are overprotective.
Or we want, as a parents and teachers, to dominate over children.
They MUST to obey us!
Children independence annoys us.
We want children to listen to us and accept everything we think is good.
We do not want them to be assertive, to have their own opinion.
That is why, as Plyšáček writes, "children are confident and innocent".
It is our fault!
They do not know, what is sex, Plyšáček writes.
Yes , because we madly keep them away from everything what is connected with sex.
Every normal pedophile does not want a child to be a slave which blindly is listening to him.
He wants that a child express his own opinion. Yes or no!

[Plyšáček]

That is why, as Plyšáček writes, "children are confident and innocent".
It is our fault!

Confident and innocent are natural and good characteristics of children. They are faults of nobody.

He wants that a child express his own opinion. Yes or no!

And if child say "Yes" on question about sex, we must say "Really NO"!
More precisely: We mustn´t ask child about sex and ask child for sex. And if child enormously want to have sex with us, we must say "Rather NO".

PS: I am sorry for my English. In my work I use only vernacular - Czech language.

[regina]

Confident and innocent are natural and good characteristics of children.

Confident and innocent means (znamená) naive.
I do not want children to be naive.
We do with children idiots.
We tell them about Santa Claus and about storks bringing children.
About a good Jesus and angels in heaven, where they go after death.
About a small girl in red riding hood talking with a wolf.
(A wolf is obviously a pedophile! )
We do not treat children seriously.

We mustn´t ask child about sex

Sex is not a question to be asked.
Sex is born spontaneously. Sex se rodí spontánně. You are sitting together and suddenly, out of the blue ( z ničeho) you hug him or her.
The fire is burning, it's the warm night in June , you are only two.

[Plyšáček]

Sex is born spontaneously. Sex se rodí spontánně. You are sitting together and suddenly, out of the blue ( z ničeho) you hug him or her.
The fire is burning, it's the warm night in June , you are only two.

Yes, sex is like fire. It is a good groom, but a bad mister.
Sapient man with self-control knows, what makes he with whom.
It´s a question, if hugging, kissing and cuddling with somebody (with child) is or is not sexual activity (or harmful activity for child).
Where can we find lines between a good friend or an excellent teacher and a molester?

[regina]

hugging, kissing and cuddling with somebody (with child) is or is not sexual activity

I think how sick must be our culture that the same kiss, when it is sexual, is considered as bad (dirty, harmful) but if it is not sexual it is good (pure and virgin).
What is so evil in sex?
Is it really that a sexual kiss is so harmful, and not sexual, is not? Why?
PS
Diocles of Megara, to where he fled from Athens. He was known for his love of boys, and was killed in a battle as he was covering his loved one with his own shield. The people of Megara buried Diocles and honored him as a hero, and held a kissing contest dedicated to him.

"Heaven rest you glad, Nisaean masters o’ the oar, for that you have done such exceeding honour unto an Attic stranger – to with Diocles (who so loved his boys); about whose grave, so surely as Spring cometh round, your children vie in a kissing-match, and whosoever presseth lip sweetliest upon lip, cometh away to’s mother loaden with garlands. Happy the justicer holdeth that court of kissing! God wot he prays beamy Ganymed, and prays indeed, to make his lips like the touchstones which show the money-changer whether the gold be bold or dross."
Theokritos Idyla XII

[Kofola Nizozemi]

Here in the west we consider sex as evil because of centuries of evil brainwashing from the church. Even if people become atheist, they still suffer and keep on suffering from this brainwashing. You need years of secularism to deprogram the population.
Enver Hoxha, former president of Albania, understood this perfectly and banned all religion when the partisans kicked out the Nazi’s back to Italy. Enver was right, he understood the real problem for humanity.

Osho also tells us that we have be deprogrammed. We are full of bullshit from church and statepropaganda, we can't think free, we can't be free, we can't act free.

Of course sex which is against the will of someone is evil and is rape. However in a culture of shame - like in Muslim or Christian culture - there is more chance of rape and having sex against someones will as in a culture where nudity is common and normal (like in Frei Korper Kultur-nudist families). Even crime in general is more prevalent in religious countries as in atheist countries (just check statistics).

So there should be a law of course against rape and sex against someones will. And that's it. And children should be raised free of shame in a nudist setting (like in Czech republics already is mostly the case luckily) and if they want sex - in their own childish way - they are the ones who should decide with who, alone or whatever. Not the adult decides, not the state decides, not the church decides, the child decide.

I do believe in God by the way, I do believe in reincarnation. But I do not believe in organized religion. And religion and state should be separated, always. Unless you like to live in some state like Afghanistan or the USA.

If you like children and you want to take care of them and want them to make happy: you make sure there is no religious indoctrination where children are afraid of going to hell if they do not do exactly what the priest told them. But hey, maybe the priest is wrong. Maybe he didn't understood the bible or Qur’an well. Who knows.

[Kasz]

...and if they want sex - in their own childish way - they are the ones who should decide with who, alone or whatever.

But here is a problem that child doesn't know much things about the world and doesn't know nearly anything about sex. So how can child do a qualified decision about it?